"I'm sorry I was a little late. I was busy whipping myself," Philip Quast joked when this writer answered the phone.
A greeting like that might raise eyebrows, but when Quast, who is playing the evil and self-abusive Judge Turpin in the Lonny Price-helmed New York Philharmonic presentation of Sweeney Todd, says it, the statement sounds perfectly natural.
A three-time Olivier Award winner, Quast has made a name for himself in musical theatre for taking on dark, extreme roles. He rose to fame when cast as Javert, the obsessed policeman, in the original Australian production of Les Miserables, which he reprised in "Les Misérables: The Dream Cast in Concert," which aired on TV in 1995.
Quast spoke with Playbill.com about his work onstage and screen, his admiration for Stephen Sondheim and "Breaking Bad," and his penchant for dark, serious roles.
Congratulations on making your American musical debut — and in Sweeney Todd. It's such a popular show.
Philip Quast: To actually sit in the rehearsal, you start looking at it. I sat there watching the first "Kiss Me" yesterday and thought, "How did he write it?" Because it's so intricately witty, and you realize that he's a dramatist in such an incredible way. He's got star-crossed lovers — it's the Romeo and Juliet stuff. But that whole sort of witty argument, the speed of thought — he's so clever.
And I'm not one of those people who sits and studies it. But I have to sit there and watch how he does it. I'm quite slow and pragmatic on this stuff because I'm not a musician, so I have to come at it from another way. I generally come at it through text. And, it's always difficult for people who aren't American, because Stephen [Sondheim] writes in speech patterns, and American speech patterns are different to English or Australian.
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Sweeney Todd is such a thought-provoking show. It inspires so many questions regarding morality.
PQ: It's a bit like "Breaking Bad." You have an argument in Sweeney Todd, where you have a situation where someone has had wrong done to them. Then they go and try to right that wrong as an act of revenge. But what happens to take them into becoming a serial killer when they pass that moment — when it goes beyond that?
Do you find yourself taking a different approach playing Judge Turpin than you did in London a few years ago?
PQ: Yes. Lonny [Price] is very experienced at doing this stuff. He's quite experienced at paring it down to the absolute essentials and narratives of storytelling. And, it's being filmed. I was thinking these concert versions, although they're semi-staged, are staged in a way — because you've got radio mics on, you've got two free hands, so you're bringing yourself up. They have to have all the truth and movement and narrative story telling for the audience because you're not doing it in the same way as if you were standing in front of the mic.
The song "Deliver Me" must be very intense to deliver night after night.
PQ: It's funny; it was cut in that first stage version. I don't know whether they thought it was too controversial — a man whipping himself, flagellating... When you look at the score, it's in the appendix at the end. You can't see now how they could have put on the show without it, because it explains everything. And, it's quite strange. A man who's kept his daughter, ostensibly, of a woman he's raped, locked up. And he suddenly sees, overnight, when young men are hanging around her, he suddenly notices at the same time that she's ripe. And then that goes into this warped, strange flagellation thing.
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