DIVA TALK: Chatting With Lady Day Star, Tony Winner Dee Dee Bridgewater
By Andrew Gans
October 18, 2013
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Dee Dee Bridgewater
Tony and multiple Grammy Award winner Dee Dee Bridgewater revisits the life of the late, legendary jazz artist Billie Holiday in Stephen Stahl's Lady Day, which recently opened at Off-Broadway's Little Shubert Theatre. Bridgewater, who won her Tony for her performance as Glinda in The Wiz, has starred in several earlier incarnations of the music-filled production, including a London mounting that garnered the singing actress an Olivier nomination. Holiday's repertoire also helped Bridgewater earn one of her three Grammy Awards: "Eleanora Fagan (1915-1959): To Billie With Love From Dee Dee" won Bridgewater the 2011 Grammy for Best Jazz Vocal Album. Her other wins include Best Jazz Vocal Album for "Dear Ella," and Best Arrangement Accompanying a Vocal for "Cotton Tail" (from "Dear Ella").
On stage at the Little Shubert, Bridgewater is joined by David Ayers as Robert, Billie Holiday's manager; and Rafael Poueriet as the assistant stage manager; with bass player Jim Cammack, saxophone player Neil Johnson, drummer Jerome Jennings and pianist Bill Jolly in the speaking roles of the onstage musicians. In the two-act production Bridgewater gets the chance to not only reconfirm her place as one of the great jazz singers — her vocal impersonation of Holiday is often haunting — but she also demonstrates her many gifts as an actress, one who is funny, sassy and completely moving.
I recently had the pleasure of chatting with the gifted artist, who spoke candidly about her long-awaited return to the New York stage. Bridgewater said she hopes her performance is an accurate presentation of the late, revered Holiday and that people will leave the theatre thinking, "Wow, what an amazing woman" and "How did she survive as long as she did?" My interview with the Tony and Grammy winner follows.
Question: Tell me about the production of Lady Day in London. Is it pretty much the same as what we’re seeing now?
Dee Dee Bridgewater: I did it in 1987. We didn’t have the multimedia involved. That wasn’t an element people used back then a lot. It was a much heavier play—it didn’t have an upbeat ending. The musicians had no dialogue. The role of Robert was just a stage manager, so we did not have a relationship in that original production. But Billie is still the same. Some of the monologues have been reduced… I think what happens in this production is I feel more like I’m on this high-speed train, and once I go through that door, it’s just nonstop!
|Dee Dee Bridgewater takes an opening night bow|
|photo by Joseph Marzullo/WENN|
Question: When in your life did you become aware of Billie Holliday?
Bridgewater: When I married my first husband, [trumpet player] Cecil Bridgewater... I’ve known about Billie all my life, but I didn’t listen to her music. My mother wasn’t a big fan of hers. My mother liked singers with a lot of range, so she liked people like Ella [Fitzgerald] and Sarah Vaughan and some other, lesser-known singers. When I married Cecil in 1970, he told me, “You gotta listen to this singer,” and I listened, and I said, “I don’t like her. She doesn’t have any range.” And, I remember, four or five years after he had given me that instruction—because he was eight years older than me, he’d be like, "You gotta do this, and you gotta do that!" I had just turned 20, so I didn’t know what I was doing, but I read "Lady Sings The Blues" and could identify with her life. I was really struck by her life. So that’s when I first became aware of her, and when I was asked to do the play, first in Paris in 1986, in French, that was when I really did some serious research on her, got to know her. After two years of Billie, 1986 and 1987, I was like, "Ooof! I can’t do it anymore." There was interest to bring it Off-Broadway back then, but I said, "I can’t do this anymore." She consumed my life. After I ended the play in London, it took me four months before I could do concerts, because every time I opened my mouth, I was sounding like Billie Holliday. I couldn’t find my voice. Billie and I have had a long history.
Question: How do you view her now?
Bridgewater: Well, I’m looking at her almost after 30 years of personal growth, as a woman, as a performer. I produce myself now. I have a lot more wisdom than I did then. Because of her and other performers in the jazz world who fell prey to drugs…I was very close to Chet Baker in his last years because he spent a lot of his last years in Europe, and I was in Paris. I just saw the ravages of heroin addiction. So, thank goodness, I didn’t go down that avenue. When I look at her now…I made a comment to [writer-director] Stephen [Stahl] in rehearsals. I said, “Holy sh*t, Stephen!” I’m 63 playing a 40-something-year-old woman, who in her life lived more stuff than I've lived in my 63 years in terms of the intensity of what went down for her. It’s just mind-boggling. When I was doing “Strange Fruit” in my repertoire… I couldn’t sing that song. It’d just tear me up, so I stopped singing it. But what I started thinking about when I was doing it was that time period she lived in and how humiliating that must have been for artists traveling in the South and just in the United States in general—being relegated to coming in through the kitchen, not even being able to be in the theatre they were performing in, as a black person, and going to the South and witnessing what she witnessed, and I’m sure she wasn’t the only black artist who did. They always had to travel back roads; they couldn’t travel main roads because of the fear of being lynched. That was a horrible, horrible time period to live through—that she was hounded for singing a song. A song. Just because of what that song spoke about? And that’s really when Billie’s life started to spiral down. They trumped up drug charges on her. Okay, she did her drugs, but they trumped charges on her to arrest her because she was streetwise. They planted drugs in her dressing room and her apartment. Just to look at what that woman went through from this new point of view, I’m astounded by her. I'm astounded by the strength that she had to continue as long as she did. It's amazing.
|Dee Dee Bridgewater|
|Photo by Joseph Marzullo/WENN|
Question: What is the challenge of playing someone who is so well-known?
Bridgewater: The challenge, for me, is the whole thing, just portraying her. The way that Stephen has written the play—I feel like I need therapy from doing it this go-round. [Laughs.] I feel like I'm on some kind of rollercoaster… The producer [Tom Gentile] is just an amazing man, and he has insisted I have a personal assistant now… [He said], "You’re going to need somebody to help you out so you can rest, run errands for you, do whatever you need done done." I’m just in the whirlwind of doing the show and trying to be true to Billie, because I want people to have a better understanding of who this woman really was and all of the things she went through and how complicated her life really was and how she was just trying to cope in her own world… So, yes, dealing with her this time – it’s rough. She’s rough. She’s a very strong woman to have endured everything she did in such a short period of time… But I’m very pleased with the reaction we’re getting from the audience every night, and I’m really beginning to see how I’m going to have to steel up. In some of these shows already people are talking to me… When I'm telling some of these stories in the second act, they start talking back to me, and it’ll throw me off. And then yesterday in the matinee, somebody’s phone went off toward the end of the show, and the person answered the phone! They were having this conversation, and I was thinking, “You’re kidding, right?” [Laughs.]
Question: I was wondering what stands out for you about your run in The Wiz since that’s what most theatre fans know you for.
Bridgewater: Just the doing of the show on Broadway and the kind of care that we had in the theatre—a lot of us in that show were novices. We had a makeup person for everybody, who taught everyone how to do their makeup and really spent the time with us individually. The actual camaraderie that existed because it was our life doing that show, and we had the luxury of doing out-of-town tryouts of that show for six months before we came to Broadway. And, Gilbert Moses, who became my second husband out of that, was the original director and what ended up on Broadway was basically his show. So what I carry with me is a lot of the backstage history that went down in that show.
Question: I hope this ends up being a great experience for you even though it’s a demanding role.
Bridgewater Well, you know, it’s difficult, but of course, it's a good experience. I don’t mean to be misleading. It’s an amazing experience and an amazing opportunity. It’s the first time I’ve done anything dramatic in theatre in the States. No one’s ever seen me do dramatic here; my reputation here is more cemented as a jazz singer. So for my jazz fans to come and see me in this, they’re stupefied. My pianist came to see me, and he came backstage and he looked like a deer in headlights. He said, “Dee Dee, I’m speechless. I didn't know this part of you. I don’t know what to say. Oh my Gosh. I have to go. I’m going to have to digest this. I’m going to write you a long email. I can’t talk to you about it. I’m overwhelmed.”
|Dee Dee Bridgewater|
|photo by Joseph Marzullo/WENN|
It’s new for me to come back and do this in the States. It’s terrifying. I know how critical theatre can be. But I’m very grateful for this opportunity, are you kidding? I’m very grateful to come back and maybe kind of right things for Billie, for myself and for her. It’s a beautiful opportunity that Tom Gentile has provided for Stephen and I and everyone who's involved. But it’s also overwhelming because I walk into that place and I go, "All these people." I have a whole other consciousness that I didn't have [when I did the earlier versions of the show]. I say, "All these people’s lives are dependent on me and what I do with this woman." But, of course, I have to put all these things in the back of my head because if I start to think like that I won’t leave the house. [Laughs.] So it is a huge responsibility, and my prayer is to do her justice, so that’s where I’m coming from—so that people come to see it. It’s all humbling for me. It’s a very humbling experience. The first thing I do when I come onstage is I say, “Thank you so much for taking the time out of your lives to come and spend an evening with me” because I realize what it takes just for people to go and see a show. And if I get 2,000 people to come and see me in a concert, me as Dee Dee Bridgewater, sing songs and entertain them, that’s pretty amazing. I am a very appreciative performer, and then in today’s economic situation and what the competition there is on and Off-Broadway, to have an audience is amazing. I’m very humbled, and I just pray that I will be able to be worthy of Billie and of everything that is happening. And, I will be forever grateful to Tom Gentile for allowing Stephen and I to relive this together.
[Tickets are available online at Telecharge.com or by calling (212) 239-6200. The Little Shubert Theatre is located at 422 West 42nd Street, between 9th and 10th Avenues. For more information visit ladydaythemusical.com.]
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